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script rules: remove jingle after overlay

Posted: 12 Dec 2014 13:49
by hdradio
Can you please explain how can I do the following.
I have a program script:
1.song
2.song
3.song
4.jingle with transition

and an overlay script
1. jingle
2. time announce
3. jingle

What script rule (and to what script I apply it - program or overlay) can I create so when an overlay ends do not play two jingles back to back ?

Please note that the program jingle 4. starts with transition (starts with cue in of next track) !

Re: script rules: remove jingle after overlay

Posted: 12 Dec 2014 14:41
by hdradio
I see.
Let's suppose now that the 4.jingle is not with transition, what script rule do I have to set ?

Re: script rules: remove jingle after overlay

Posted: 12 Dec 2014 20:17
by radio42
When the track insert transition of the program script (script-line 4.) was already executed/converted, I am afraid, that there is no chance to revert this transition automatically.
This because the track to which the insert transition happened might be a non-Jingle (e.g. Music) entry and this will stay.

As such the script rule is never really violated...as a Jingle is played back to back with Music...
I am not sure, if it will be possible to change that.
I might take a look...

Re: script rules: remove jingle after overlay

Posted: 12 Dec 2014 20:57
by radio42
I am also afraid, that currently program and overlay script do not cross-check their result entries - if that is what you mean.

I am also not sure, if that will entirely possible, as the overlay script is executed ahead of time (when the overlay is loaded). But at that moment you can only estimate what track is about to play within the program. The same would also be true for the check at the end of the overlay which track(s) to check at the end of the overlay?!
Plus: who should have priority? The overlay or the program and which track to skip/remove?
If overlay tracks are to be removed, this might result in an empty overlay...but it was already shown...etc.
If program tracks are to be removed, that might also effect time, e.g. in case of Soft or EndsAt start types...plus it might become problematic if your overlay is only very short (like your 1 second) time announcements... so a lot of things to consider.
As such, I am not sure, if that is really feasible - I need to take a look at it and place it onto the Wish-List...

Re: script rules: remove jingle after overlay

Posted: 13 Dec 2014 20:19
by radio42
What you might use instead is the overlay 'Suppress Filter'.
See general settings, section 'Scripts/Scheduler' in the Overlay and Advert group.

In the 'Suppress Filter' select all the media entry types which should be ejected/suppressed within the current playlist when an overlay is about to start.
This allows you to prevent, that these media types are played either directly before or after the overlay.

Note: This function is only in effect, if an Overlay has the 'ApplySuppressFilter' option set (which is an option in the Overlay Editor) as well as if this option is set!

If enabled the Overlay-Player will eject any track8s) matching the defined suppress filter media types which are currently loaded to any (not playing) DJ Players. This effectively happens two times:
a) once the Overlay is shown (and waiting) - to eject upcoming tracks before the overlay starts to play
b) once the Overlay started its play out - to eject subsequent tracks following the overlay play out

I guess this feature might be well used instead he extra script rules - I wasn't thinking of this before ;-)