Multiple Overlay Plays

[PaskalG]

Ok Bernd, thank you so much for all your help. I'll wait for a new appropiate way to do it.

THANKS!!!

[radio42]

I guess for now the appropriate way is to make your advert slot 'long' enough - I am not so sure, if there will be another quick solution to your very specific scenario...

[PaskalG]

Hi Bernd,

Ok, I'll make it like you told.

So, I create an overlay with my content (DTMF+ 3:30 song + DTMF) and I use the commands in that overlay to create a direct player that goes by another soundcard channel. That's alright.
Also, (remember I'm "copying" the signal of channel 1 into channel 2 via SND command) I use the command to make the signal 2 independent and play my local adverts (direct player) from there.

What I don't know how to do is to execute the SND command when my adverts end (so it reconnects to Channel 1 and "connect" to the 3:30 song that is being played in that moment).
I know how to make it with the overlay control command (On Overlay Closed for example), but in that case the direct player would stop and that independent signal would keep in silence until the overlay stop/close and the SND command is executed. So, how could I execute that SND command when the direct player reproduces all the adverts?


Thank You so much!!

[radio42]

Why couldn't the overlay player send that signal?
Maybe I did misunderstand you or did oversee something, but... I thought, that both must have the exact same length ?
I.e. if you would 'cut off' the routing (disable SND) when the advert has finished, the DTMF signal (which is played by the Overlay Player) wouldn't be transmitted to that SND channel anymore ?!

However, if the 'Advert' is the 'critical path' - just use it the other way around (this was what I even initially suggested):
- let the 'Advert' play via the Overlay Player
- let the DTMF+song+DTMF playlist play via the DIRECT PLAYER
This way you can activate/deactivate the SND function via the overlay events.

[PaskalG]

Yeah but the adverts are shorter than the DTMF+song+DTMF, so the playlist would be activated again before the 3:30 song ends.

The way we do it is: we play the DTMF so the local stations disconnect from the main station (me) and play their local adverts, and we decided to give 3 minutes and 30 seconds to play all the adverts they want, so I can't play the reconnection DTMF until that time ends (that's why I play a 3:30 song to fill that full time, also for those local stations that are only repeaters that don't disconnect neither have any local advert, so they listen the 3:30 song and not my local adverts).

Now, the problem is that I'm the main station but also I work as local station at break times for commercials, so I need to play my local adverts in paralell to that 3:30 song but in another audio channel. The idea was play in overlay the 3:30 DTMF stuff and play only the local adverts in another direct/standby players and (for example, if I have only 2 local adverts that have a total duration of 40 seconds and obviously they end before 3:30 song ends) make the signal copy again the main signal via SND command, making that my local station "connect" to that started 3:30 song.

So, the audio signal 1 plays all the playlist tracks and my 2nd signal is copying the signal 1 all the time (each one go to different stations, signal 1 goes to all my local stations and signal 2 goes to my own local FM station) but when the commercial break starts, the playlist stops, and the overlay player plays the DTMF + 3:30 song via audio signal 1 and using the SND command my signal 2 stops copying the signal 1, so I play my local adverts and when they end it should copy the signal 1 into signal 2 again until next commercial break.

The problem is that I can separate signal 1 & 2 when adverts start but not put them together again (not before overlay player ends, that is what I need).

Any idea?

And answering to your questions:

No, I wouldn't cut off the signal, because the main signal plays the DMTF

And yes, one solution would be make both (local and main adverts playlists with the same duration, but that's too much work, we have 46 commercial breaks each day, so it would be crazy fill the local adverts until 3:30 with a song of specific duration, I would need to cut tons of songs with different durations from 10 seconds until 3:30!!
I'm sure that proppfrexx must have an option to insert the SND command when the directplayer stops or something like that so if my local adverts ends before the 3:30 song the signal 2 connect and copy the signal 1 again and people should listen what rest of that 3:30 song until it ends.

[PaskalG]

Thank you Bernd!!

[radio42]

Now I got you!
Yes, there is currently no command to trigger when the DIRECT_PLAYER ends - I will add that feature to the next verison, which is about to be release this week (hopefully tomorrow)! Hope, that this is sufficient...

[radio42]

A new v4.0.1.19 update is available!

This contains an additional control-command:
EXEC_DIRECTPLAYER_ONTRACKEND name|command

This command allows you to inject a control-command to execute once the track assigned to the direct player with the <name> ends.
I.e. here you might now switch your mixer channel's SND routing.

[PaskalG]

Thank you Bernd! It works perfectly!!

Also, I found another way to make it, I'll tell you to share this way to someone who need the same than me.

I have 2 outputs (1 my radio station, 2 my local radio station). Output 1 SND to output 2.


When commercial break arrives, I need to reproduce my local adverts and in paralell to play a song for those local radios who doesn't disconnect from me.

So, I can make it creating the song script in the overlay player and using direct player option play the adverts there (using the SND commands) or...
I can manage the adverts via overlay player as well, and execute an script via fix element option at scripts edition, so, I set both at the same time, both fixed or soft with the same delay time, and insert the SND command at the beggining and at the end of the overlay, so I play both in paralell.


I wouldn't have discovered this without your help Bernd, thank you so much!! Oh wait, double thanks, also for that update!!



I would like to ask you a short question... Have you heard about proppfrexx problems with sync devices (like Megasync, Google Drive, Dropbox...)?
I'm using Megasync but sometimes (not always, but most of them) it doesn't syncronize until I close proppfrexx, like if proppfrexx would take the control of all folders.



Greetings!!

[radio42]

Your welcome!
No, I haven't heard about any sync issues. I wouldn't even know why, as by default ProppFrexx doesn't hold any references or files open to a folder; except you have enabled the 'Auto Watch' feature.
The 'Auto Watch' feature uses an OS feature to monitor any changes happening in a folder - I am not really sure, what that feature exactly does inside the OS, but it simply informs me about changes to any file or sub-folders within that monitored folder. So I am not sure, if that would ever have an impact to Megasync.
Are you using folder based media libs on which you turned that 'Auto Watch' feature on? If yes, try to deactivate and see, if that makes any difference with Megasync...