StationVoiceBefore
StationVoiceBefore
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I’m running into the following problem. I use the following to play an "artist" jingle before a song:
Adele - Skyfall.StationVoiceBefore.mp3
Adele - Skyfall.mp3
The relevant jingle is not included in the cartwall and is only located in the song’s folder.
The above works in about 60 percent of the cases, but sometimes the song is not placed after the corresponding jingle, i.e. the song is skipped. This can, for example, lead to the following situations in the playlist:
Adele - Skyfall.StationVoiceBefore.mp3
Imagine Dragons - It's Time.mp3
Or
Adele - Skyfall.StationVoiceBefore.mp3
Jingle
Imagine Dragons - It's Time.mp3
Is there a solution for this? Thanks in advance!
I’m running into the following problem. I use the following to play an "artist" jingle before a song:
Adele - Skyfall.StationVoiceBefore.mp3
Adele - Skyfall.mp3
The relevant jingle is not included in the cartwall and is only located in the song’s folder.
The above works in about 60 percent of the cases, but sometimes the song is not placed after the corresponding jingle, i.e. the song is skipped. This can, for example, lead to the following situations in the playlist:
Adele - Skyfall.StationVoiceBefore.mp3
Imagine Dragons - It's Time.mp3
Or
Adele - Skyfall.StationVoiceBefore.mp3
Jingle
Imagine Dragons - It's Time.mp3
Is there a solution for this? Thanks in advance!
Re: StationVoiceBefore
Are you using any global script rules, which might suppress or defer those tracks?
Bernd - radio42
ProppFrexx ONAIR - The Playout and Broadcast Automation Solution
ProppFrexx ONAIR - The Playout and Broadcast Automation Solution
Re: StationVoiceBefore
No, I only use the “ApplySuppressFilter” in the overlay editor, but there is no upcoming overlay when this happens.
Re: StationVoiceBefore
I double checked it, and it is only Script Rules which might modify and suppress such entries.
I might even change that order in the next version, so that StationVoice files are even applied after the Script Rules (which might make sense).
But other than that, I see no chance, that StationVoice files are suppressed.
But note, that the processing of StationVoice files is by default disabled with each new program start!
I.e. you must manually enable it for each and ever program via the SCHEDULER_CHECKSTATIONVOICEFILES_ON command - else they will not be checked!
Can this be your issue?
You can check, if it is enabled via the SCHEDULER_CHECKSTATIONVOICEFILES_GET command.
I might even change that order in the next version, so that StationVoice files are even applied after the Script Rules (which might make sense).
But other than that, I see no chance, that StationVoice files are suppressed.
But note, that the processing of StationVoice files is by default disabled with each new program start!
I.e. you must manually enable it for each and ever program via the SCHEDULER_CHECKSTATIONVOICEFILES_ON command - else they will not be checked!
Can this be your issue?
You can check, if it is enabled via the SCHEDULER_CHECKSTATIONVOICEFILES_GET command.
Bernd - radio42
ProppFrexx ONAIR - The Playout and Broadcast Automation Solution
ProppFrexx ONAIR - The Playout and Broadcast Automation Solution
Re: StationVoiceBefore
Yes, SCHEDULER_CHECKSTATIONVOICEFILES_ON is enabled. However, the issue is not that the StationVoice files are being suppressed. The problem is that sometimes the song following the StationVoice file is missing.
In about 60 percent of the cases, it works correctly:
Adele - Skyfall.StationVoiceBefore.mp3
Adele - Skyfall.mp3
But in some cases, the following occurs: the song “Adele – Skyfall” that should play after the StationVoice file is missing, and the next song in the playlist, “Imagine Dragons – It's Time”, is played instead, as shown below:
Adele - Skyfall.StationVoiceBefore.mp3
Imagine Dragons - It's Time.mp3
Thanks for your help.
In about 60 percent of the cases, it works correctly:
Adele - Skyfall.StationVoiceBefore.mp3
Adele - Skyfall.mp3
But in some cases, the following occurs: the song “Adele – Skyfall” that should play after the StationVoice file is missing, and the next song in the playlist, “Imagine Dragons – It's Time”, is played instead, as shown below:
Adele - Skyfall.StationVoiceBefore.mp3
Imagine Dragons - It's Time.mp3
Thanks for your help.
Re: StationVoiceBefore
Oki, if the track is sometimes missing you might have some ScriptRules defined. Else this is logically not possible. And i am also not able to reproduce the issue.
Are you sure there are no Rules or Restrictions defined?!
Are you sure there are no Rules or Restrictions defined?!
Bernd - radio42
ProppFrexx ONAIR - The Playout and Broadcast Automation Solution
ProppFrexx ONAIR - The Playout and Broadcast Automation Solution
Re: StationVoiceBefore
There are no rules or restrictions defined. As you can see in the screenshots below, the situations are similar.
In this example, the playlist is correct.
In this example, the song by Kelly Clarkson is missing.
I am curious about how the “Playlist Look Ahead” function works when, while loading new items, the last item happens to be a song with a StationVoice. I see three possibilities when “Playlist Look Ahead” is set to 3:
1. There are four items in the playlist. The last two are the StationVoice and the corresponding song.
2. There are three items in the playlist. The last one is the StationVoice. The next time items are loaded, the corresponding song is added.
3. There are three items in the playlist. The last one is the StationVoice. The next time items are loaded, a new song is added instead, which results in the song belonging to the StationVoice missing from the playlist.
I might be completely off here, but I thought it was worth giving it a try.
In this example, the playlist is correct.
In this example, the song by Kelly Clarkson is missing.
I am curious about how the “Playlist Look Ahead” function works when, while loading new items, the last item happens to be a song with a StationVoice. I see three possibilities when “Playlist Look Ahead” is set to 3:
1. There are four items in the playlist. The last two are the StationVoice and the corresponding song.
2. There are three items in the playlist. The last one is the StationVoice. The next time items are loaded, the corresponding song is added.
3. There are three items in the playlist. The last one is the StationVoice. The next time items are loaded, a new song is added instead, which results in the song belonging to the StationVoice missing from the playlist.
I might be completely off here, but I thought it was worth giving it a try.
Re: StationVoiceBefore
The playlist look ahead just queries new tracks from the script. And StationVoice files are applied after, so that this is unrelated.
As said, i can not reproduce here.
You might enable the Debug Logging and reproduce it and then send me the Debuf…log file with the exact track which is missing - maybe Incan spot anything in that log.
As said, i can not reproduce here.
You might enable the Debug Logging and reproduce it and then send me the Debuf…log file with the exact track which is missing - maybe Incan spot anything in that log.
Bernd - radio42
ProppFrexx ONAIR - The Playout and Broadcast Automation Solution
ProppFrexx ONAIR - The Playout and Broadcast Automation Solution
Re: StationVoiceBefore
See attached file. The StationVoice after which, in this case, a song by Pink should be played is A2623-pink.
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Re: StationVoiceBefore
Could it be, that your station voice files are also part of your regular media libraries and as such sometimes also scheduled as regular tracks?!
And if that is happening, no related track is of course added, as the regular track is already such Jingle and as such kept and played alone.
See here:
11/9/2025 4:43:28 PM: Processing Script-Line 6 done: 1 Random : ANYOF:2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 (Filter=, Options=None) (scriptlineSkipped=False; track=Jingle - A2623-pink)
Note, that you MUST exclude your station voice files from your media libraries (which is today only possible with playlist based media libs) - this is today not happening automatically for folder based media libs!
I might add a new option to the next version to skip station voice files from loading folder based media libs.
And if that is happening, no related track is of course added, as the regular track is already such Jingle and as such kept and played alone.
See here:
11/9/2025 4:43:28 PM: Processing Script-Line 6 done: 1 Random : ANYOF:2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 (Filter=, Options=None) (scriptlineSkipped=False; track=Jingle - A2623-pink)
Note, that you MUST exclude your station voice files from your media libraries (which is today only possible with playlist based media libs) - this is today not happening automatically for folder based media libs!
I might add a new option to the next version to skip station voice files from loading folder based media libs.
Bernd - radio42
ProppFrexx ONAIR - The Playout and Broadcast Automation Solution
ProppFrexx ONAIR - The Playout and Broadcast Automation Solution